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is successful because its authors never shied away from marketing.

@jonn first time i hear about it =) which is probably normal: not being a dev i'm not the target audience. also, this has (almost) nothing to do with a language being successful or not. just saying =)

@tivasyk I mean. is 90% marketing. is very well-marketed, but actually has PLT value. Etc. has built its success on a false premise. I think that marketing is a huge component in any market success, including programming languages.

@jonn «I think that marketing is a huge component in any market success» -- oh, no doubt about that on my side. also, i have like 15 years of exp. in marketing, lol =)

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