Jons Mostovojs  

IM is the worst thing that happened to FOSS communication. Nerd-only software gatekeeps contributions.

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Jeff Moe  

@jonn

What did I miss? Seems Matrix is ok to me.

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Jons Mostovojs
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@jebba never works. I was praising client, but learned that its wasn't just me for who it glitches/fails to deliver messages.

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Jeff Moe  

@jonn

I've never seen Element not deliver messages, but I agree it isn't stable for sure.

I tried a few versions of it, and I found what worked best was adding their Element Debian repo, and installing their binary of the package via apt.

I'm generally loathe to use other upstream repos, but I create a seperate virtual machine (KVM) for Element, so it is all contained.

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Diabetic Heihachi  

@jebba
@jonn
Discord went to shit like six months too soon. Element was and isn't 100% ready. I have faith in the team and development process because what is here is pretty dang cool.
I was able to install a server, set to private register and work out the cli to do admin things in under an hour, and my fam didn't have any issue onboarding.

I don't miss messages but I have had delays with the mobile app, and when many elements are active, the occasional message goes to 1-2 devices rarely.

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Diabetic Heihachi  

@jebba
@jonn

The big inconvenient truth about these solutions isn't how well they can work, scale or ease of use, but it really is how well they can work on low resources or systems under load, and how easy they are to diagnose issues when they occur and maintain.

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Austin Huang ❤  

@jonn @jebba Have you considered switching homeservers?

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Jeff Moe  

@austin @jonn

I thought of running my own, but right now just using matrix.org. Works well enough.

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