@thomy2000 104 days ago it was the 30th of november, the 280-th day of the #russia's war on ukraine… thousands of ukrainians were already dead, some of them tortured, raped, burned… hundreds of children have been kidnapped by russia, often separated from their families…
…but good luck trying to find any mention of the war in the stream of the person you've just shared :-/ this is as close to a mention as i've found:
https://mastodon.social/@laplab/109429114298659798
as if all the dead didn't matter.
@tivasyk @thomy2000 це ж хороший росiянин! Я не можу описати наскiльки такi люди мене бесять. У нас в команде інтелектуальних ігор е росiяне. Когда ми с iнчими латишами вирішили бойкотувати чемпiонат Великой Британiї з-за росiян-авторов пакета (хе-хе-хе), кожен росiйский але беларуский член наошої команди зараз почав грати жертву. Але зазвичай вони підтримують Україну і навіть жертвують на ЗСУ.
Моя гипотеза що рашiзм з голови неможливо вичистити повнiстю.
@tivasyk @thomy2000 а, свiт маленький. Я його бачив на воркшопе #RustNationUK.
Привит @laplab. Як справи?
@jonn @tivasyk @thomy2000 I am not going to comment on this situation. This person clearly does not know me and if this is enough for them to judge me so harshly, so be it.
@laplab you do realise that it's OK that it's harder for you to do many (most) things during wartime though, right?
That's the whole reason why we don't like good russians. Not because you may or may not be donating to #ЗСУ, not because you may or may not be an opponent of putin's regime, but because you play victim when faced with inconveniences.
I welcome questions and hardships that I get from interacting with the West due to the fact that I'm affiliated with russians (because I have a lot of russian employees, whom we have transported out of russia). I'll be glad when and if I'll have personal problems with crossing the borders because I have a russian tourist visa stamp in my passport.
Thing is that I have contributed to the legitimisation of putin's regime after 2008, 2013 and 2014 by doing business with russians, so it's logical that I have to face inconveniences.
On the other hand, russians themselves who benefited from the regime, no matter if by virtue of studying in #мгу or #мфти, or by receiving awards or stipends, should, will and do face their own share of hardships.
The point of the post which made you grumpily say "so be it", to play captain obvious, is that none of your hardships, my hardships, even hardships of #zpatriots in #EU or #UK are even remotely comparable to the hardships Ukrainians are going through right now. So why complain? Why say nothing about the war? Oh, sorry, you did!
https://mastodon.social/@laplab/109619573302290241
Tak-to))
@thomy2000 @tivasyk if you care for the matters of feeling for russians, read the long-toot above. Didn't tag you because ain't nobody got time for this.
in text:
«judging» is a tag that carries negative connotations while often is (incorrectly and manipulatively) used instead of «having expressing emotions on being faced with a complex situation involving another person».
i don't know you, true; i've only seen your stream and have experienced an emotion of surprise and disappointment that i have expressed.
i did not «judge» you, nor insult or harass or in any other way attacked you.
p.s. «i am not going to comment» is a comment btw.
> «i am not going to comment» is a comment btw.
I wanted to point that out too, but instead tried to show empathy and explain why I, as a Latvian and most (all?) of my Ukrainian and Latvian friends dislike "good russians".
But we ended up getting blocked by vatnik sympathisers. I'm willing to bet that neither Thomas nor Nikita have ever directly donated to #ЗСУ.
In a way, Nikita is less dangerous than Thomas. Nikita doesn't hide the fact that he's "neutral" towards the war that his country is waging on his behalf.
Thomas, however, poses as a #Ukraine-supporter in the West.
@tivasyk haha this thomas frans guy is also rather weird. Can you imagine someone getting offended to read what I wrote to Nikita. I didn't even write anything close to what I may have written in private to a friend of mine, I don't attack Nikita or anything in my toot, just explain in 2048 symbols or less, why russians and people who interacted with russians after 2008 and russia should expect at least minor inconveniences or moderate inconveniences.
Imagine getting jaded about it.
You made a great call by calling the guy out for re-tooting Nikita's introduction.
@jonn i might be overly sensitive to the topic...
...but it's because if my country's army were waging a fashistic war against another nation, i would not be able to not speak against it.
people are different =/
@tivasyk OMG! These are the exact words I use to try to explain russian terpilas about reasonable morals.
Thing is that we've seen what fascism does to the world, not just #Europe!
So it's about pragmaticism as much as it is about morals.
What I tell russians to get through to them is: "Latvia and russia has a disputed territory, Abrene. It's was taken by russia in 1991 and was de facto conceded when the two countries were making the modern border. If my country, backed by NATO would invade russia and start a genocide there on the premise of protecting Latvian-speaking residents of Abrene, I would immediately denounce my own country, moved to a neutral country, and applied for an asylum on the grounds of wanting to waive my citizenship."
I think that the difference is that imperialists and those who grew up in the centers of the empires gain so much value from growing up in the center of an empire, they inevitably develop "terpiljstvo": a mentality and a set of behaviours of not going against the empire's policies. Thus, even when an empire turns fascist, they seldom protest and perhaps they even wait for "everything to get back to normal" so that they can keep benefiting from being in the center of an empire.
@jonn exatly what one sees in the eyes of many, many former russians, but today citizens of canada, usa etc: they wait for their motherland to keep it's power, despite profiting of the other country's democracy and comforts =/
@jonn i wanted to respond, but either i have been muted or blocked by the opponent. which kind of supports my previons impression (i'll add the text below, here's a screenshot for the moment).