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@thomasfuchs ah yes, the civilians. I was kinda with you until today (after I moved to London and fell under the influence of palestinian propaganda).

Sadly for that take, we have videos of what the "civilians" are doing to the hostages hamas took today.

Gladly for that take, with the amount of hostages taken, it's gonna be hard to bomb poor civilians!

Don't get me right, I don't like Israel, but yeah, hamas obviously has an overwhelming popular support in gaza and they are the aggressor and the war criminal here. Palestinian civilians have ways to contact mossad and prove their dedication to civilian life by helping the defenders. Just like russians in russia. Calling for restraint in the Israeli response is siding with iran and russia. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

cc @normis

@jonn @thomasfuchs @normis Same, really. I was always sympathetic to Palestine and critical of Israel. But today Hamas helped me make up my mind. How can Israel tolerate such a threat at - or actually inside - its borders? Of course they have to retaliate. And of course civilians in Gaza will suffer. They should thank Hamas.

@amayer thanks for sanity-checking me. After normis has sent that Vox video I've actually went and read about the Palestinian civil war in 1947, which has preceded the first Israel war in 1948, seems like if there's someone "guilty", it's Brits and the crime is "unethical decolonization".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%

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