For many years I've believed that Facebook and Instagram were secretly downloading phone photos in the background. Because when you go to post a photo, it gets sent far too quickly to have done a download at the same time.

Yesterday I found this video from an Instagram founder, and damned if I wasn't right.

It doesn't appear to be all photos, just the most recent one (ones?). It's not clear from the video if it happens when you launch the app, or when you hit compose. They're doing it on the assumption you're about to post some recent photos. They claim it's okay because if you don't post it, they delete it.

That's classic Meta self-serving bullshit. The "Yeah, it's wrong, but it's okay because we're Meta and we're smart" excuse they always use.

It is not okay to upload my photos without my explicit consent. It's not okay to chew up my bandwidth when I may be deliberately trying to keep it low. IANL, but that first, frankly, sounds like class action material.

It doesn't matter that they claim to delete it. They just introduced a privacy risk. That could have been a nude of my spouse. That could have been a photo of my kid I was sending to my doctor. That could have been a photo of a contract I'm not allowed to share. All to save a few seconds they can brag about.

When Apple allowed you to selectively make photos available to app, I turned the feature on for Meta apps. This makes posting photos a pain, because Meta doesn't uses Apple's UI for choosing which photos they can see and selecting them at the same time. It's a multistep process and it isn't obvious how to do it. Ironically, it means that I rarely post to Instagram anymore. A fact that just reinforces my belief that Meta really wants full photo access and deliberately isn't fixing the issue.

@nazgul @whvholst Also 100% they have the microphone on to target their ads. Wouldn’t they?

@alper @nazgul That one has been discredited over and over. The power of inference from all the data they get about you is stunning enough.

@alper @whvholst @nazgul Unless it is properly proven, I do not think it is helpful to spread these conspiracies, because it dilutes the actual dangers both of complete surveillance and the power of inference. Whether Instagram actually send your voice data to a server is possible to observe and there are even some people doing research into this. I am not saying: Let Instagram slide. I am saying: Collect evidence and properly call them out.

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