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Spruce up your data entry by sprinkling � or a€™ liberally around the web. Maybe slap an [object Object] in a field or two for good measure...

@dansup so what you're saying is that problems with the apps are just that and the actual backend works as intended?

@jasongorman first, there is more to stakeholder analysis than just users though. And addressing the need sometimes creates new users and removes old users. In some cases, if you only think about users before starting application design, you are unlikely to make something novel.

Also, in dreaded agile, sometimes the need is actually to create an easily iterable system to explore a domain! Each iteration shall have its set of users, but designs shall be checked against how agile they are!

@jasongorman I called that you'll respond this way, but at that step of system design it is irresponsible to answer anything but "we will see". Unless you define application as "a system that addresses a need of users", but then your poll is kind of rigged? I personally consider batch data processing application that runs on some cluster "an application".

I'm interested to know what folks think.

Does application design start with:

@jasongorman just like any system! Application design starts with the need.

When I was a kid, I marvelled at the smart kids with amazing projects and this and that. "Wow. That kid is so amazing and I'm not"

As an adult, I finally realize how much work it is to set up my child to do this and that. The fair she's going to today would not have happened without me running around starting with borrowing a sewing machine, then buying fabric, getting her set up with patterns. Even learning to sew in the first place was because of one of my friends.

This is a kind of privilege I never knew as a kid.

Despite all the memes, it's hard to appreciate privilege. My daughter experiences more than I ever did. I had more than my parents did.

We don't have a lot of control over these things but it's important to acknowledge and appreciate them. It's the lack of acknowledgement from the billionaire class that's the problem.

For the love of God, all you did was switch social media platforms. You are not a “refugee”

@normis es nevaru saprast kā facebook joprojam nav aizlēgts civilizētajā pasaulē pēc atklāsmem par Cambridge Analytica un prigožina botu fērmam.

Problēma jau nav tiktokā. Pilnīgi visas platformas ievāc lietotāju datus dažādiem mērķiem. Pilnīgi visās platformās ir gan nopirktu botu bari, gan propogandas konti. Nav jābloķē viena konkrēta platforma, jārisina pašas problēmas. FB ir gan naciķu grupas, gan anormālas dezinfo kampaņas. X vispār pieder galēji labējam miljardierim ar slimīgu vēlmi ietekmēt pasaules kārtību. Just fucking quit! Lietojiet atvērta koda decentralizētas platformas. Un valdībām jārisina šī augošā problēma, nevis jābloķē platformas pašas

@BeAware do everyone else a favour and just explain why. Or, alternatively, shut the fuck up. 😻

@patrickcmiller Without having read the article, I'd love to see a ban on GDPR violating cars in EU. You know, stuff like foundation.mozilla.org/en/priv or the talk on VW at 38c3.

And then let's do it right and have physical separation between infotainment and controller networks. And of course no permanently active sim card(s), but only in case of emergency or at choice.....

And then I might be willing to even buy chinese cars.

@mwl but be careful not to own too much or you will be shot by your commie buddies 😇

@schrockwell fwiw, there is a C&C / revival project. Folks from it may have the deets

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